Template talk:Species infobox: Difference between revisions

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:::"True variant" is a very vague concept though. What makes, for example, [[Beanie]] a "true variant" of [[Goomba]] in a way [[Konk]] isn't one of [[Thwomp]]? [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 17:34, April 24, 2024 (EDT)
:::"True variant" is a very vague concept though. What makes, for example, [[Beanie]] a "true variant" of [[Goomba]] in a way [[Konk]] isn't one of [[Thwomp]]? [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 17:34, April 24, 2024 (EDT)
::::Beanie was decided via a proposal I wasn't a part of. I'd prefer it not be listed the way it is, personally, especially if [[Galoomba]] is to be considered not a variant. Konk should also probably be considered a true Thwomp, to be honest. As a related example, Whomps are clearly inspired by Thwomps, but they're only ever described as associates and have a notable amount of differences compared to some others. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:48, April 24, 2024 (EDT)
::::Beanie was decided via a proposal I wasn't a part of. I'd prefer it not be listed the way it is, personally, especially if [[Galoomba]] is to be considered not a variant. Konk should also probably be considered a true Thwomp, to be honest. As a related example, Whomps are clearly inspired by Thwomps, but they're only ever described as associates and have a notable amount of differences compared to some others. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:48, April 24, 2024 (EDT)
::@Somethingone I understand how the subject parameters differ from related species parameters. My question is why we would need to put this info in the infobox. Even with the "animals with articles only" rule (which I do not see anywhere on this template, and which incidentally is broken by the Kremling example I gave earlier that has a category page as subject origin), there's still the problem of how the animal articles are not about the animals themselves, but about the roles they play in media relevant to Mario, which often otherwise not relevant to the article listing it as its subject origin.
::The example you gave of the Star Bunnies being derived from rabbits does make sense (though I'd argue that its behavior matches up with the ''SM64/3D World/Oddyssey'' rabbits to the point where it may as well be a variant), but I'd like to provide a counterpoint in the [[Rabbid]]s, who are clearly inspired by rabbits yet have nothing to do with the Mario franchise's depictions of them. [[User:DrippingYellow|DrippingYellow]] ([[User talk:DrippingYellow|talk]]) 19:10, April 24, 2024 (EDT)