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#{{User|TheUndescribableGhost}} I was already upset that ''The Wizard'' was regulated to being mentioned on a list and had plans to visit this issue with even using this article as a reason to why that was such a mistake, but at least there, you could make an argument that no physical appearance of a character appears. With this movie, DK is an obstacle. Also, this proposal does not attempt to bring up the coverage policy nor even attempt to compare it other guest appearances we have allowed on this wiki. I'm not sure what is the barest minimum we ever had for a guest game is; it's subjective, but this isn't something that is a throw-away scene. '''Granted, I have no seen the movie,''' but people bring up that action scene and it's a lot more than just a few seconds if that's true. If DK made a blink or you miss it cameo, or only appeared for like ten seconds, I'd say yeah, put this in references. It's the reason to why I do stand on my point on ''Wreck-It Ralph'' being in the references section as well, since Bowser has no plot relevance.
#{{User|TheUndescribableGhost}} I was already upset that ''The Wizard'' was regulated to being mentioned on a list and had plans to visit this issue with even using this article as a reason to why that was such a mistake, but at least there, you could make an argument that no physical appearance of a character appears. With this movie, DK is an obstacle. Also, this proposal does not attempt to bring up the coverage policy nor even attempt to compare it other guest appearances we have allowed on this wiki. I'm not sure what is the barest minimum we ever had for a guest game is; it's subjective, but this isn't something that is a throw-away scene. '''Granted, I have no seen the movie,''' but people bring up that action scene and it's a lot more than just a few seconds if that's true. If DK made a blink or you miss it cameo, or only appeared for like ten seconds, I'd say yeah, put this in references. It's the reason to why I do stand on my point on ''Wreck-It Ralph'' being in the references section as well, since Bowser has no plot relevance.
#{{User|Koopa con Carne}} DK has plot relevance in the movie, similarly to how he's an opponent in Wii Punch-Out
#{{User|Koopa con Carne}} DK has plot relevance in the movie, similarly to how he's an opponent in Wii Punch-Out
#{{User|Arend}} Both DK and the ''Donkey Kong'' arcade game are relevant to the plot of this film (although one could argue the latter doesn't necessarily matter since ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' is relevant to the plot of ''The Wizard'', and that got merged to the list; still though, DK the character plays a significant role regardless).


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Revision as of 17:12, May 1, 2024

Why does this article exist? Can't we just transfer most of the information to List of Mario references in film#Pixels? Sprite of a Goomba from Super Mario Bros.DarkNightSprite of a Piranha Plant from Super Mario World 17:59, October 1, 2020 (EDT)

See here. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:05, October 1, 2020 (EDT)
Ok. Sprite of a Goomba from Super Mario Bros.DarkNightSprite of a Piranha Plant from Super Mario World 18:11, October 1, 2020 (EDT)

Re-merge to List of references in film

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Current time: Saturday, May 18, 2024, 23:38 GMT

I previously supported the proposal splitting this page out in the first place, but I now realize that it's no longer viable as a standalone article, especially in regards to the recent re-merge of The Wizard. This article has the same problems as The Wizard article did anyway. Besides the article's infobox and intro paragraph having little to do with the Super Mario franchise as a whole, what is indeed relevant to Super Mario as a whole can easily be summarized into one or two paragraphs in the List of references in film article. Besides, just like The Wizard or Wreck-it Ralph, this film is more intent on referencing all manner of classic arcade games than the Super Mario franchise in general. In light of this, I call for a re-merge.

Proposer: Archivist Toadette (talk)
Deadline: May 13, 2024, 23:59 GMT

Support

  1. Archivist Toadette (talk) Per.
  2. Camwoodstock (talk) Per proposal--if we merged The Wizard, this seems only fair.
  3. Super Mario RPG (talk) Movie's not good anyway.
  4. MegaBowser64 (talk) This wiki is an Adam Sandler-free zone, no exceptions. Per proposal.
  5. Pizza Master (talk) If you keep it unsplit, then you have to include every movie with Mario characters in it on here even if their appearances are just as cameos.

Oppose

  1. Hewer (talk) Per the original proposal that split it. Unlike The Wizard where the characters just play Mario games, Donkey Kong is an actual character in the film, there's a whole scene themed around the Donkey Kong arcade game that's the climax of the film, the game also seems to have some plot relevance, DK even features prominently in a poster. This is honestly probably more substantial than several of our game guest appearances - for instance, if DK being the final boss isn't enough for Pixels to be a guest appearance, why is it enough for Punch-Out!!? And I don't see what the film referencing multiple arcade games has to do with anything, it doesn't make the Donkey Kong stuff that is there any less noteworthy. Smash Bros. having a lot of franchises isn't stopping it from getting coverage (articles on the games, at the very least, are certainly not being lost any time soon).
  2. SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) Per Hewer.
  3. EvieMaybe (talk) a main character of the mario franchise appearing as a critical plot point and final baddie of a movie? sounds like more than your run-of-the-mill guest appearance
  4. ExoRosalina (talk) Per all? Because many of them uses Mario franchise but includes a Donkey Kong game, as well as other arcade games.
  5. TheUndescribableGhost (talk) I was already upset that The Wizard was regulated to being mentioned on a list and had plans to visit this issue with even using this article as a reason to why that was such a mistake, but at least there, you could make an argument that no physical appearance of a character appears. With this movie, DK is an obstacle. Also, this proposal does not attempt to bring up the coverage policy nor even attempt to compare it other guest appearances we have allowed on this wiki. I'm not sure what is the barest minimum we ever had for a guest game is; it's subjective, but this isn't something that is a throw-away scene. Granted, I have no seen the movie, but people bring up that action scene and it's a lot more than just a few seconds if that's true. If DK made a blink or you miss it cameo, or only appeared for like ten seconds, I'd say yeah, put this in references. It's the reason to why I do stand on my point on Wreck-It Ralph being in the references section as well, since Bowser has no plot relevance.
  6. Koopa con Carne (talk) DK has plot relevance in the movie, similarly to how he's an opponent in Wii Punch-Out
  7. Arend (talk) Both DK and the Donkey Kong arcade game are relevant to the plot of this film (although one could argue the latter doesn't necessarily matter since Super Mario Bros. 3 is relevant to the plot of The Wizard, and that got merged to the list; still though, DK the character plays a significant role regardless).

Comments

@Hewer: Bowser is also an actual character in Wreck-It Ralph as part of the Bad Guys Club, but we still merge it to the List. We do get that Bowser is maybe less overall relevant (since he's moreso part of an ensemble), he still does get some emphasis. He's given unique sprites in the brief scene where everyone's leaving the Bad Guys Club in the Pac-Man ghost pen, and he's featured prominently in the trailers, where his reaction shot when Ralph says he doesn't want to be a bad guy is given emphasis. While it's no Pixels, Bowser's presence isn't anything to scoff at, either. also the trailer unironically used Funky Town and we'd like to let the record show that jumpscared us ~Camwoodstock (talk) 11:21, April 29, 2024 (EDT)

Maybe Wreck-It Ralph needs splitting, maybe it doesn't, that's a separate discussion that doesn't change that Pixels very much has enough Mario relevance to pass as a guest appearance by our policy. If our standards for film guest appearances are anything like our standards for game guest appearances (one enemy in Punch-Out being Donkey Kong, StreetPass Mii Plaza and Nintendo Badge Arcade having a lot of Mario-themed cosmetics, soon-to-be guest appearance Rhythm Heaven Fever having one or two Mario characters in a single mode, etc.), I feel like there's no way that Pixels doesn't qualify. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 11:42, April 29, 2024 (EDT)

@Pizza Master: No? The reason we have this page is because DK's appearance in the movie is more than just a cameo, as I described in my vote. Cases like this are the whole reason we even have the "guest appearance" designator to accommodate for them. Again I bring up game guest appearances: your argument is like saying that the Punch-Out!! (Wii) page somehow justifies splitting Nintendogs + Cats. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 03:11, May 1, 2024 (EDT)