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== Create a article for each Paper Mario chapters ==
== Create a article for each Paper Mario chapters ==
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<span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">DON'T CREATE 4-9</span>
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I think each Chapter from Paper Mario need their own article, because, they are too short describe on the page of their game. We should set up a page for each chapter that would be much more detailed with the places visited, the enemies/bosses encountered and important characters in history. We should do this for Paper Mario and Super Paper Mario, too. So, why not?  
I think each Chapter from Paper Mario need their own article, because, they are too short describe on the page of their game. We should set up a page for each chapter that would be much more detailed with the places visited, the enemies/bosses encountered and important characters in history. We should do this for Paper Mario and Super Paper Mario, too. So, why not?  
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:Transgender and gender dysphor'''ic''' are synonyms, though, regardless of what some people say. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 02:13, 5 November 2018 (EST)
:Transgender and gender dysphor'''ic''' are synonyms, though, regardless of what some people say. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 02:13, 5 November 2018 (EST)
::I disagree. Transgender means the person identifies as the gender "opposite" to their birth sex (i.e. a person or was born male but identifies as a woman ''or'' who was born female but identifies as a man) ''whereas'' gender dysphoria refers specifically to the distress that ''may'' arise due to not identifying as cisgender.


::Sources: "Gender dysphoria (GD) is the distress a person feels due to their birth-assigned sex and gender not matching their gender identity. People who experience gender dysphoria are typically transgender." - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria|Wikipedia]
::[[User:MiracleDinner|MiracleDinner]] ([[User talk:MiracleDinner|talk]]) 05:57, July 27, 2019 (EDT)
:This is another old, long-abandoned discussion, as indicated by the date of "November 2018". --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 06:47, July 27, 2019 (EDT)
::What do you suggest as the limit to how old a thread should be before I avoid contributing? [[User:MiracleDinner|MiracleDinner]] ([[User talk:MiracleDinner|talk]]) 06:55, July 27, 2019 (EDT)
:::Probably anything older than a year as a bare minimum. If it's genuinely important for the page, though, it wouldn't hurt to try starting a new topic line. --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 07:16, July 27, 2019 (EDT)
== The category of "Similarities to Paper Mario" (number 18 in the contents) on the main Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door page ==
== The category of "Similarities to Paper Mario" (number 18 in the contents) on the main Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door page ==


"Chapter 5 takes place on a tropical island with coconuts in both games and both involve an expedition. Also, in both games, this is when Mario's oldest partner joins him, and they both have to be rescued from being stuck in a tree before they do so."  
"Chapter 5 takes place on a tropical island with coconuts in both games and both involve an expedition. Also, in both games, this is when Mario's oldest partner joins him, and they both have to be rescued from being stuck in a tree before they do so."  


I'm not 100% certain, but I'm pretty sure Admiral Bobbery does not need to be rescued from a tree to have him join your party. He is next to a tree but isn't stuck in it. Sushie '''is''' definitely stuck in a tree. {{unsigned| ‎PaperMariofangirl11}}
I'm not 100% certain, but I'm pretty sure Admiral Bobbery does not need to be rescued from a tree to have him join your party. He is next to a tree but isn't stuck in it. Sushie '''is''' definitely stuck in a tree. {{unsigned| PaperMariofangirl11}}
:iirc, he hides in the tree with the Embers attack him. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 11:22, 5 November 2018 (EST)
:iirc, he hides in the tree with the Embers attack him. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 11:22, 5 November 2018 (EST)
:He does hide in a tree, and you have to hammer him to make him fall out. See [https://youtu.be/-SrZe13V-w0?t=41m49s this video]. [[User:Scrooge200|Scrooge200]] ([[User talk:Scrooge200|talk]]) 12:30, 5 November 2018 (EST)
:He does hide in a tree, and you have to hammer him to make him fall out. See [https://youtu.be/-SrZe13V-w0?t=41m49s this video]. [[User:Scrooge200|Scrooge200]] ([[User talk:Scrooge200|talk]]) 12:30, 5 November 2018 (EST)
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So i'll wait until anyone edits these in. --[[File:Shroob_Walking.gif]] [[User:Tent2|<span style="font-family:system;color:#9932CC">Tent2</span>]] [[File:Shroob_Walking.gif]] 12:46, April 4, 2019 (EDT)
So i'll wait until anyone edits these in. --{{User|Tent2}} 12:46, April 4, 2019 (EDT)
 
== Credit movement ==
 
In the credits, some letters move and there are 2 types of movement. Can someone see if they say anything?--[[User:Svtopdog|Lava Juggle]] ([[User talk:Svtopdog|talk]]) 16:34, May 17, 2020 (EDT)
 
== Suggestion to move regional differences of this page into a subpage ==
There's a lot of differences between the Japanese and international versions that haven't been covered yet so I suggest we should make the regional differences part of this main page into its own subpage since the main page is already quite long.
[[User:Mr. Kite|Mr. Kite]] ([[User talk:Mr. Kite|talk]]) 21:08, November 14, 2020 (EST)
:The thing is that we haven't really had dedicated regional difference pages yet (the closest being some names in other languages articles, used for a few ''Super Mario Odyssey'' lists for example). That would set a new precedent that should have a greater discussion. Currently, for articles like ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' and ''Donkey Kong Country'', we have version differences but encourage going to TCRF for a more comprehensive look. We can do the same for ''Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door'' and maybe others like ''Super Mario Sunshine'' in the meantime. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]])
 
== Mini-Yoshi's Stampede and Smash Bros. Melee's opening ==
 
Smash Wiki's article of Yoshi's Final Smash in SSBU has both the Melee opening and the one from this game as its "origin". Both of them are also similar in the attacking method, should the one used by Mini-Yoshi count as a reference to Melee as well? [[User:EC2-Towards|EC2-Towards]] ([[User talk:EC2-Towards|talk]]) 08:57, December 13, 2020 (EST)
 
== A given name for the green Toad sailor ==
 
I was reordering the Toad template in the Italian Wikia (comparing it with yours) and I noticed that the unnamed green Toad sailor that appears in this game, does have a name in the Italian version (which is "Ansio", which derives from "Anxiety") and so does the brother ("Ansio Maggiore", "Bigger Ansio"). I'm checking if the character does have names in other languages through Dolphin emulator. The question is, once I have the names list... which one can we use for his page?
 
The current list:
{{foreign names
|Ita=Ansio
|ItaM=From "Ansia" (Anxiety)
|Fre=Marin Toad<br>Toad peureux
|FreM=Toad Sailor<br>Scared Toad
|Spa=Marinero Toad<br>Marinero con cara de asustado
|SpaM=Toad Sailor<br>Scared looking sailor
|Ger=Furchtsamen Matrose
|GerM=Timid/Scared Sailor
}}
 
PS: As for now, the brother is just called, in other languages a part from Italian, "the Toad Sailor/Scared Toad's brother"
 
--{{User:Mariuigi_Khed/sig}} 08:08, January 30, 2022 (EST)
 
== Add item list would be turning this into a walkthrough? ==
 
I was looking to items in this page but couldn't find them. Does adding them feel like and excessive amount of information for what this article intends to? What are your opinions on this? --[[File:DyeffersonAzSignature.png|link=User:DyeffersonAz]] ([[User talk:DyeffersonAz|talk]]) 21:06, September 9, 2022 (EDT)
:No, you're correct, this page is clearly incomplete and definitely needs an item list. Our article on the previous game [[Paper_Mario#Items|Paper Mario, has an item list]]. Furthermore, we do have a navigation template on items, but it's a separate template, making it certainly more of an unnecessary challenge to browse through all the items in the game.
:If you can started on an item list, then it'll be appreciated! [[File:Go Mario.png]] {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 02:58, September 10, 2022 (EDT)
::Can you show me where this template is? --[[File:DyeffersonAzSignature.png|link=User:DyeffersonAz]] ([[User talk:DyeffersonAz|talk]]) 10:32, September 10, 2022 (EDT)
:::The navigation template? {{tem|PMTTYD items}} {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 14:48, September 10, 2022 (EDT)
::::Yes, thanks! --[[File:DyeffersonAzSignature.png|link=User:DyeffersonAz]] ([[User talk:DyeffersonAz|talk]]) 07:05, September 11, 2022 (EDT)
 
== Vivian's identity ==
 
Section 14.4 (Regional differences - Aesthetic changes) notes that [[Vivian]] is not portrayed as a male-to-female gender dysphoric in the English and German scripts. However, in her respective article it reads "Vivian is inconsistently depicted as either a transgender woman, or as a male-identifying cross-dresser ..." Should we change one of the articles to match the other? I believe changing this one to state that Vivian is not portrayed as a transgender female in the English and German translations of the game would work well as well as make her descriptions across articles consistent. --[[User:OmegaRuby|JoeCool]] ([[User talk:OmegaRuby|talk]]) 22:40, October 18, 2023 (EDT)
 
== Frost Piranha erroneously listed as Putrid Piranha in the Bestiary section ==
 
I can't edit the page to fix this because it's protected [[Special:Contributions/98.217.98.176|98.217.98.176]] 00:39, April 30, 2024 (EDT)
:Fixed, thanks. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:46, April 30, 2024 (EDT)