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:::The only reason why Glowsquid, myself, or anyone else would touch upon encyclopedias is because that is the language you yourself have invoked here and in the past, so I am not sure how it is "dishonest". Proper reference material like encyclopedias are products of discrimination, curation, and interpretation, regardless of topic. To employ the same framework here on Super Mario Wiki is not inherently "unencyclopedic" or at the "expense of an encyclopedic mission".
:::The only reason why Glowsquid, myself, or anyone else would touch upon encyclopedias is because that is the language you yourself have invoked here and in the past, so I am not sure how it is "dishonest". Proper reference material like encyclopedias are products of discrimination, curation, and interpretation, regardless of topic. To employ the same framework here on Super Mario Wiki is not inherently "unencyclopedic" or at the "expense of an encyclopedic mission".
:::I think well of your efforts on the wiki. I would appreciate it if you engaged with these comments with similar care. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 02:18, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
:::I think well of your efforts on the wiki. I would appreciate it if you engaged with these comments with similar care. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 02:18, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
::::There wasn't anything unkind in my message. I did not insult his person, I merely addressed his argument. It's pedantic because it tries to lecture a proper definition of encyclopedias whilst being dishonest for ignoring all the other inherent aspects of this wiki that do not fulfill that definition. Actual encyclopedias are expressly defined as summations of many kinds of information, sure, but Mario Wiki can afford to go into much more detail and use that power to document and archive virtually all official aspects of the Mario franchise. To argue that it should be distorted to fit the mould of ''real'' encyclopedias is plainly arbitrary and I'm concerned it will be further used as an excuse to trim detailed information that is otherwise observant to the wiki's current guidelines. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 02:29, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
::::There wasn't anything unkind in my message. I did not insult his person, I merely addressed his argument. It's pedantic because it tries to lecture a proper definition of encyclopedias whilst being dishonest for ignoring all the other inherent aspects of this wiki that do not fulfill that definition. Actual encyclopedias are expressly defined as summations of many kinds of information, sure, but Mario Wiki (being an online encyclopedia) hasn't got all the strictures and trappings of one, and has proven to afford going into much more detail and use that power to document and archive virtually all official aspects of the Mario franchise. To argue that it should be distorted to fit the mould of ''real'' encyclopedias is plainly arbitrary and I'm concerned it will be further used as an excuse to trim detailed information that is otherwise observant to the wiki's current guidelines. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 02:29, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
:::::As a clarification, I don't support placing information or material anywhere with reckless abandon and having no concern as to where it's actually relevant. To me, that ought to be subject to curation--I'm a stickler for organization and endeavor to make content read and display well, so I understand where you're coming from. I'm just arguing that said material should still exist somewhere on the site rather than being outright removed. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 02:39, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
:::::As a clarification, I don't support placing information or material anywhere with reckless abandon and having no concern as to where it's actually relevant. To me, that ought to be subject to curation--[[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/56#Split_the_tour_appearances_of_every_Mario_Kart_Tour_course|I'm a stickler for organization]] and endeavor to make content read and display well, so I understand where you're coming from. I'm just arguing that said material should still exist somewhere on the site rather than being outright removed. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 02:39, May 13, 2024 (EDT)


I'd like to point out that the [[Kanaami Road]] article has only one of these images per course. If we're really not drawing a line ''anywhere'', then that article has to go up from an already massive 248 course icons to — and yes, I counted — '''''eight hundred and ninety-three'''''. I would not consider it a failure of the wiki's coverage to not have every course icon on the articles in the same way I do not consider it a failure that the Kanaami Road article does not have 893 images on it. (It isn't lost on me that the only reason I could get that number is because the course icons were on this wiki, though, so I am in favor of having them ''some''where.) [[User:Ahemtoday|Ahemtoday]] ([[User talk:Ahemtoday|talk]]) 19:30, May 12, 2024 (EDT)
I'd like to point out that the [[Kanaami Road]] article has only one of these images per course. If we're really not drawing a line ''anywhere'', then that article has to go up from an already massive 248 course icons to — and yes, I counted — '''''eight hundred and ninety-three'''''. I would not consider it a failure of the wiki's coverage to not have every course icon on the articles in the same way I do not consider it a failure that the Kanaami Road article does not have 893 images on it. (It isn't lost on me that the only reason I could get that number is because the course icons were on this wiki, though, so I am in favor of having them ''some''where.) [[User:Ahemtoday|Ahemtoday]] ([[User talk:Ahemtoday|talk]]) 19:30, May 12, 2024 (EDT)
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